Saturday, July 31, 2004
Kaye: I mentioned Michael Moore in an earlier post. I've finally seen Fahrenheit 9/11 and it has only reinforced my bad feelings with regards to this War. The footage of the civilians in Iraq is something I'm having a hard time shaking. You really have to put yourself in someone else's shoes. I also now understand why the Congressional Black Caucus is honoring him. The footage of certain CBC members submitting challenges to the election (with no Senator willing to sign off on it) was something I hadn't seen before. I also liked how he illustrated that many who enlist in the military do so b/c of limited options. And - all they ask is that they only be sent into harms way when absolutely necessary.
Kevin Airrington: Michael Moore is an idiot! I wouldn't waste 2¢ on his piece of crap propaganda...
Ann Stewart: I just saw Mike Moore’s 9/11….If you love Bush you will hate that movie….I believed most of what Mr. Moore put in that movie….But now I hear Mike Moore is getting death threats….Kevin your not the one who’s doing that are you?….He He…. Kevin Just kidding.
Kevin Airrington: Michael Moore reluctantly agrees to be a guest for an 8 minute segment on The O'Reilly Factor.
When: 8:00PM EST, Tuesday, July 27th, 2004!!! For you cross-eyed libs from LA that is tomorrow!
This promises to be one of the best interviews of the year. Michael Moron while he does have a freedom of speech…goof fricken grief some thing should just be kept to themselves!
What I find outrages is the fact that that film is compromising lives in Iraq/Afghanistan. I hope Bill rips that SOB apart! There is a time and a place for that propaganda and the time is NOT when we have boots on the ground under fire!!!
Right now, we need to concentrate on keeping them alive and bringing them home…you ignorant piece of shit liberals! Who gives a rats ass what you think of the war or the President…NOW is not the time…you insensitive self-serving whores!
Protest BEFORE a war or AFTER a war…only a self-serving whore would do it DURING a war. Even the strongest of supporters of the Iraq war do not care and to some extent respect the opinions of the left…but for God’s sake…whether you want us there or not we are there, whether you agree with or hate the very ground Bush walks on…that is no longer the issue…the issue is bringing them home alive and what you are doing is costing lives! When will you wake up to this fact? Support the troops…they are only doing what they are being asked to do…like or not your opinion does not matter.
Michael Moore does not matter…but if he is costing lives…THAT MATTERS. YOU FRICKEN WHORES!!!!!
Black balling Nader from the convention…that was their most brilliant move yet. They are so afraid he is going to pull votes…and it may be so…I have one question…I doubt whether we will get an answer but WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY? My grandfather was a democrat…I was raised a democrat…today I am a republican and I am sure my grandfather if he were alive today he would change parties.
We will see if Kerry gets the same bump he got when he selected Edwards (- 4 to +4 point bump depending on the poll, compared to Clinton’s 19 and Bush 17) Then the RNc…BIG BUSH Bump…and I am so looking forward to the two or three debates…99 days until Bush is re-elected!
Laura in LA: Wow, a solider wrote an email and the clearly partisan conservative think tank says Fahrenheit 911 is having a "Devastating" Impact on Military Morale, Says Soldier Deployed Overseas.” I am shocked, shocked!! That one dude knows everything – he’s a scientific poll. I am sure Hannity, Rush, O’Reilly are blabbing on about it today too. One can also go to Moore’s site and read all the emails he’s received from soldiers to the contrary. So, it’s back to the point I keep making about “perspective.”
The entire war sucks!! I am sure there are millions of reasons to be a bummed out solider in Baghdad. The suggestion by the Right that the First Amendment should be suspended when opinions don’t comport with their own is the real issue. Frankly, all I care about is that both perspectives can be heard – the rest is meaningless partisan ramblings. What I want to know is who bootlegged Moore’s movie if it’s floating around Iraq. That’s not right - he’s losing royalties.
Fahrenheit 9/11 is Having "Devastating" Impact on Military Morale, Says Soldier Deployed Overseas
Paul Teutal: Soldier Says "Young and Impressionable" Soldiers Just Returned from Iraq Deployments Are "Being Made to Feel Ashamed" of Their Service
The National Center for Public Policy Research has posted online an e-mail received from a soldier, Spc. Joe Roche of the 1st Armored Division, who says Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11 is "making the rounds" among soldiers at U.S. military bases overseas and is "shocking and crushing soldiers, making them feel ashamed" of their service in Iraq. The letter has been published online by The National Center without abridgment. The full text can be found here. Some excerpts:
"Michael Moore's film, Fahrenheit 9/11, is making the rounds here at U.S. bases in Kuwait. Some soldiers have received it already and are passing is around. The impact is devastating. Here we are, soldiers of the 1st Armored Division, just days from finally returning home after over a year serving in Iraq, and Moore's film is shocking and crushing soldiers, making them feel ashamed. Moore has abused the First Amendment and is hurting us worse than the enemy has. There are the young and impressionable soldiers, like those who joined the Army right out of high school. They aren't familiar w/ the college-type political debate environment, and they haven't been schooled in the full range of issues involved. They are vulnerable to being hurt by a vicious film like Moore's."
"Specialist Janecek, who is feeling depressed because a close family member is nearing the end of her life, just saw the film today. I saw him in the DFAC. He is devastated. 'I feel shitty, ashamed, like this was all a lie.' Not only is he looking at going straight to a funeral when he returns home, but now whatever pride he felt for serving here has been crushed by Moore's film. Specialist Everett earlier after seeing the film: 'You'll be mad at shit for ever having come here.' And there are others. Mostly the comments are absolute shock at the close connections Moore makes between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia. 'Bush looks really really REALLY corrupt in this film. I just don't know what to think anymore,' is a common comment to hear. Some of these soldiers are darn right ashamed tonight to be American soldiers, to have been apart of this whole mission in Iraq, and are angry over all that Moore has presented in his film."
"Right now, just days away from what should be a proud and happy return from 15 months of duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom, your U.S. soldiers are coming back ashamed and hurt because of Moore's work."
"I sometimes want to be mad at my fellow soldiers for being susceptible to Moore's distortions, but I can't really blame them. These are good Americans, who have volunteered to serve our country. Nothing says they all have to be experts in Middle Eastern issues and history and politics to serve. That would be silly. ...But this is, of course, the vulnerability that Moore has exploited."
"I wonder how damaging and shocking a Moore project would have been in the 1940s making such a video of Franklin Roosevelt."
Spc. Joe Roche serves with the 16th Engineering Battalion of the 1st Armored Division. He and his unit were deployed in Iraq for 15 months. An archive of his e-mails can be accessed at www.nationalcenter.org/RochePage.html online.
The National Center for Public Policy Research is a non-partisan, conservative/free-market think-tank established in 1982 and located on Capitol Hill. It can be visited at http://www.nationalcenter.org online.